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david ayers
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generated elevation pens

     Anyone know how to generate an elevation drawing in some line weight other than the pre-set pen weight 6?  Changing pens under Pen Setup at either drawing or system level doesn’t seem to change them, nor does it seem to change anything else that I’ve been able to determine. What DOES changing pens at Pen Setup change? What’s causing SP to generate all lines of elevation drawings in pen 6?
      AND, why will SP not change generated lines in a saved elevation via the clicks it changes other lines? The lines will not TRULY edit to some other weight via the normal edit or repeat edit functions. Although edit window will indicate that actions to edit to some other weight has been successful, each and all of those lines are still 6 and will print at 6. The only way I’ve found it possible to successfully edit pens of the sp generated elevation drawing lines is to introduce a NEW line into the generated /saved drawing, edited to or drawn originally with the pen wt of some of the lines that the elevation drawing is to be comprised of, then repeat edit ONE AT A TIME (repeat edit box is without effect) each of the generated lines desired to be at that pen wt. And then repeat this for EACH of the pen wts wanted in elevation drawing.
     No fun.
     Any help much appreciated. David A.
 

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Bill Wimberley
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generated elevation pens

David, I'm heading out the door for an appointment so I don't have time to fully answer you right now but maybe I can answer a couple of things quickly.

When you generate an elevation all of the pens are unchecked by default. So even if you had changed the pen for another item and then used repeat edit or repeat edit box then the other items will not change because they still have the pen box unchecked.

What you need to do is edit one of the items that do not already have the pen checked and then place a check next to the pen. Then immediately repeat edit or repeat edit box to turn the other items check boxes on as well. If you had selected an item that already had the check box active and then repeat edit it then it would not turn on the check boxes for the other items.

When I get back from my appointment I'll delve into the other aspects of your question, if someone else hasn't answered it by the time I get back.

Bill is the owner and maintainer of SoftPlanTuts.com

Bill Wimberley
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generated elevation pens

When you generate an elevation and save it there are a number of layers that are created. These new layers are added to the bottom of the list in the Layer Setup dialog and they reflect the types of materials in the drawing. These layers are assigned a pen number. And the various items that compose the elevation are assigned an appropriate layer.

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So for instance the lines that make up the roof may be placed on the "Roof\Asphault Shingles" layer and the wall lines may be placed on the "Walls\Brick A" layer. Since the lines are assigned a layer and the layer is assigned a pen then then that pen is automatically assigned to the line. If you try to change the pen by selecting the line and checking the box next to Outline Pen you will find that you can not change the pen from "By Layer" because the layer is explicitly assigned a pen number.

In order to change this pen you have do one of these things:

1. Remove the item from the layer by selecting the Common tab and changing the layer assignment to another layer that does not have a pen assigned to it or 2. change the pen assignment for that layer in the Layer Setup dialog.

As long as an item is assigned a layer and that layer is assigned a pen number you can not directly edit the pen number in the item itself. The pen will only be "By Layer"

If the layer pen is changed to "Default" in the Layer Setup dialog then the pen assignment becomes editable in the item.

So, you may be asking, how do you assign a default pen for each of these items. Well that gets a little more tricky. But it is not that difficult. Just open the Drawing Options Layer Setup for your generated elevation. Scroll down to the bottom of the layer list and assign your desired pen numbers to the various layers. Then select Save to System from the bottom of the dialog. This will transfer your layer assignments to the System Options Layer Setup. Now any new drawings you create will already have these pens assigned to the layers.

If you want to bring these assignments back into an existing drawing then open the Drawing Options Layer Setup dialog and select Reset to System.

david ayers
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Thanks, Bill. That helps a

Thanks, Bill. That helps a lot. Excellent information as always.