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vince
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dimension re-position
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2012

Hi Bill,

 

Trying out SoftPlan, came from AutoCAD and Revit. Guess you can't really drag and re-position the dimension line and/or drag or reposition what's being dimension or add new point in between 2 points being dimension. I was wondering what would be the concept to accomplish these common AutoCAD tasks. Thanks! Vince.

Bill Wimberley
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Dimension

Welcome aboard Vince.

In SoftPlan you can move things around by editing their dimensions. For instance if you have 2 walls that are 4' apart and you want to make it 5' you can edit the dimension. When editing the dimension you enter the new distance and then click on the arrow button in the dialog box or use the arrow keys on your keyboard. The arrows indicate which wall will be the one that moves. So for instance if you want to move the right wall you would click the right button or the right keyboard key. If you want to move each wall 6" from the center you would select the middle button on the dialog box. Is this what you are talking about?

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vince
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Thanks, Bill! I was talking

Thanks, Bill! I was talking about the actual dimension/extension lines themselves. I figured out to move them with the move command.

Irish2
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Vince,

Vince,

Just left click on the dimension number and you can move it up/ down, etc. The extension lines travel with it. The point of reference for the extension lines, what they are dimensioning, are not as freely moved since they "attach" themselves to the object being dimensioned. So if you want to, for example, change from dimensioning a window from the center to the edge, but only that one, then you have to edit the object and change it there. Dimensioning in Softplan is a little more limited than what you are used to. Hope this helps. 

vince
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That was actually what I was

That was actually what I was wondering. Is it possible to change the dimensioning of exterior wall from surface to stud or of interior wall from stud to center line without the whole process of changing the format of dimension and redrawing extension and dimension? Thanks!

Bill Wimberley
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Dimensions and Extensions

How walls are dimensioned is actually controlled in two different places.

Wall Definition
If you define your walls to have specific locations for dimensions and/or extensions then that will be the location of the dimensions or extensions for that particular wall. For instance you might define the wall to dimension to the brick and extension from the stud. Or some other combination of wherever you want to have your dimensions and extensions. This gives you the most control of exactly how your dimensions and extensions will work.
Dimension Options
You can set a global position for dimensions and extensions in the dimension options. These will be the default dimension and extension settings for any wall that does not specifically define how the dimensions and extensions are to be for that particular wall.

 

When you change how dimensions and/or extensions are to be done then in most cases the dimensions will update to the new settings. But extensions will remain in the location they were originally placed. So to answer your question...you will have to redo your extensions if you want to change their locations after you have drawn them.

vince
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OK, thanks Bill! Is it

OK, thanks Bill! Is it possible to have the same exterior wall be dimensioned to ext. stud and veneer at the same time?

On a different issue, I changed the interior walls dimensioning to edge at some point an hour ago but now I want them dimensioned to center and I've changed all settings everywhere I can find to center but interior walls are still being dimensioned to edges instead of center. What am I missing? Now I can't dim int. walls to center and stuck with edges. Thanks!

Bill Wimberley
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Dimensions and Extensions

Yes, you can have dimensions to both the stud and veneer at the same time. Define your wall to dimension to both the outside of the stud and veneer. Then in Dimension Options place a check next to Wall Thickness.

If you want to change your dimensions for your interior walls from center to edge and have them update you can do that using Dimensions Tab-->Dimension Format. Make the appropriate changes and check the Convert box prior to selecting OK.

 

vince
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If I "Define your wall to

If I "Define your wall to dimension to both the outside of the stud and veneer." then I'll have tick marks at the stud and veneer on a string of dimension across the building. I would think that dimensioning to veneer for the overall width/depth of your building (in addition to dimensioning to studs where your exterior wall jogs/steps) is a common practice in home building and yet there's not an easy way to do it in SoftPlan. Thanks anyway, Bill.

Bill Wimberley
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Dimensioning

I never dimension to the veneer on the floor plan. I dimension for the framers to know where to build the walls. If you get too many dimensions showing it is easier for the framers to get the walls in the wrong place. When you generate a Building Outline for the site plan then the building outline will be to the outside of the veneer so your footprint on the site will include the veneer.

If you want to dimension to both the stud and the Veneer on your floor plan I would suggest setting your Extensions to come from both the veneer and stud rather than having the Dimensions do that. That way you can show both the framing and veneer dimensions around the outside of the plan but only dimension to either the stud or veneer when running dimensions across the plan.

vince
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OK cool, thanks!

OK cool, thanks!

 

This the other problem I was having with interior wall not dimensioning to center no matter what. I created this wall by copying the standard Partition 3.5" and change the width to 4" and the height to 8'-1 1/8". This is what it shows in the Wall Definition window:

 

This is what the original Partition 3.5" shows:

 

What did I do wrong when I copied the original Partition 3.5" that made my wall dimension to edges instead of center? How do I edit this wall so it will dimension to center like the original Partition 3.5"? Thanks!

Bill Wimberley
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Dimensions

If you want your wall definitions to control the dimension and extension settings then make the change to the wall definition. If you want your Dimension Options settings to control the dimensions and extensions set all of your dimension and extension settings in the wall definition to None. Wall definitions override Dimension settings. The graphics in the wall definitions reflect the wall settings, not the Dimension settings. So it is possible to have all of your wall Dimension and Extension settings set to None but they would not reflect your Dimension settings in the graphic.

 

vince
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Thanks again, Bill!! I

Thanks again, Bill!! I figured out what I did wrong. One side of the drywall was off by 0.5" on the Horizontal Start.

 

By the way, what's the difference between Plate A and Plate B, Drywall A, B and C, etc.?

Bill Wimberley
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Materials

If you don't use SoftList then there is no difference in the materials. The different types are primarily for creating wall definitions that will have different materials in SoftList. So for instance you might consider Drywall A to be standard drywall and Drywall B to be fire rated for the purposes of materials listing formulas.

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Hey Vince - 

Hey Vince - 

 

I converted from ACAD to Sofplan last year.  I basically had to re-train myself on how to design a set of plans. That probably sounds more drastic than it is.  Regardless, I am glad I made the switch.  If you have any questions about making the switch, feel free to post them here.  I'll do my best to monitor this thread and answer anything you have.  

- Cory

vince
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Thanks Cory!

Thanks Cory!