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Bill Wimberley
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Windows 10

For those of you who are wondering how well SoftPlan works with Windows 10. I've been running Windows 10 for a few days now and I have not had any issues with SoftPlan. The only thing different I have discovered is that when the window is full screen the name of the project up at the top of the page disappears. To see the name of the currently open project you can make the window floating and it will appear. I have reported this to SoftPlan so hopefully they can fix this with the next update.

Bill is the owner and maintainer of SoftPlanTuts.com

yvongonthier
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Windows 10

Not familiar with it, but Softplan administrators also mentioned; "If you use OneDrive be careful. Windows 10 did away with the Smart File feature."

Keith Owens
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Windows 8.1

Bill, I actually have the same issue with windows 8.1, and it happened with using SP2012 as well. The top bar of the window will also turn black sometimes when you drag the window from being maximized to floating...you can't even see any of the icons at the top right of the window, but they are still there because you can click in the corner and the program will close. I don't think this is necessarily a SP issue, I think it's a Windows issue as I have problems with Microsoft Office applications as well.

Bill Wimberley
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Video Driver

Hey Keith. I went from Windows 7 to Windows 10 so I don't have any experience with Windows 8. But what you are describing sounds like a video driver issue to me. Especially since you are having issues with multiple programs. And the top bar turning black and the disappearing icons are also symptoms of video card or driver issues. Do you have a good video card with lots of memory and are you using the latest drivers?

Keith Owens
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Bill, that was my initial

Bill, that was my initial thought as well (and it could still very well be the case), however after going through all the typical procedures of making sure all updates were installed, video card driver was up to date, running a check disk, etc., I got a tech involved to try and isolate the problem (since this was a brand new machine from Dell). After working on and off with him for 2 or 3 weeks trying different things, the end result was him suggesting to remove and reinstall windows. I never did that, just figured I'd wait until windows 10 - these issues are minor and more of an annoyance than anything. I do have a good video card (2 actually), the whole PC is built well (32G of ram, etc.), it's very fast.

One other thing I noticed is the text at the top bar only disappears when the window is active, when you click in another window the text reappears, but it is white and you can barely see it with the top bar being a very light color. When you float the window the text is black. Is this the same for windows 10 as well?

Bill Wimberley
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Project name

In Windows 10 the text is just not there when the window is maximized. That is unless it is just completely white. The top bar is completely white. Making another application active on my other monitor does not make the text appear in SoftPlan. 

Bill Wimberley
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Project Title

Well it appears that the reason the Project title disappears in Widows 10 is because the text in SoftPlan's expanded window is white. White text on Windows 10's white title bar = no visible text. I was able to find a temporary solution that allows me to see the text by following the instructions at How to Get Colored Window Title Bars on Windows 10. This will get me by until such time as SoftPlan changes the title bar text color to black, assuming that they do make the change.

 

Keith Owens
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I updated to windows 10 last

I updated to windows 10 last Friday - looks like the issues I was having with 8.1 are resolved. 8.1 must be programmed so when the window isn't active the title bar actually changes color, or the opacity changes. The white bar is definitely an issue for any software using white text in that area - I know SP has been this way since version 2012. The first thing I usually do is customize all my themes, colors, etc., and found that windows 10 doesn't let you change that without the workaround. In searching I also found that we'll probably see the "aero glass" option back, that we all know from windows 7. Hopefully that will be sooner than later, as I prefer that theme myself.

 

http://winaero.com/blog/how-to-enable-aero-glass-and-transparency-in-windows-10/

 

Overall windows 10 performs very well - I use an Xerox 8825 plotter and had no issues with the driver.
 

UncleMilze
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So what is every ones opinion

So what is every ones opinion on Windows 10 (not from a Softplan viewpoint).  I also come from Windows 7, I tried Windows 8 and hated it.  Is 10 any good, worth changing to?

Bill Wimberley
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Windows 10

I like Windows 10. At first it wasn't all that impressive. Just another OS with a different interface. But I went through all the Windows 10 courses on Lynda.com, about 8.5 hours worth of videos, and gained a good understanding of how it all works and how to personalize it to my liking. It does take some getting used to, just as anything new does. And there are still some minor instability issues and glitches that need to be worked out. But overall it works great. I have never ever been a fan of Internet Explorer. And anyone who has ever done any web design loathes it. But I like the new Edge browser. I didn't think I would at first but it has grown on me. Cortana is pretty cool to play with but so far I can't see it being extremely useful. Maybe over time as it learns my voice and the way I work it will be a bit more useful. I like the new Start window where you can place and arrange numerous tiles of various sizes to access applications. There are tons of apps you can get from the "App Store". Many, if not most, are free. And the live tiles are great for quickly checking things like weather and news feed headlines.

I skipped over Win 8 and 8.1. For some reason I could never get it to install. Microsoft tech support was less than helpful in finding out why. The install process would go all the way to the end then crash and revert to Win 7 with no indication of what went wrong. But after hearing about how everybody hated Win 8 I was glad I wasn't able to get it installed. I was pleased that Win 10 actually installed without a hitch. It did take several hours to install though, maybe 5 or 6 hours, and for about 3 hours it seemed to be stuck at the same place and I was worried that it wasn't going to complete. But it finally continued on and finished. So if you are updating be sure to allow several hours for the process.

Bill M
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I'm having the problem

I'm having the problem installing Win 10 that you described about Win 8.  It goes to the end of the process and reverts back to Win 7.  I can't find a solution to this.

Bill Wimberley
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Try threats

Did you try threatening your computer by telling it you were going to turn it into a secret email server if the installation didn't take? That seemed to have worked for me. smiley