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jimcrook@live.com
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Renumber Openings ID's
SoftPlan Version:
2014 Plus

Version 2014 - Can someone explain how the Renumber Opening ID's is suposed to work ?

When I choose that option nothing seems to happen ?   If I want to renumber the openings I just hit edit and change the opening numbers to suit but if I have already generated an Opening Schedule it does not regenerate with the new numbering sequnce and  I have to recreate a new Openings Schedule.  If I choose the Renumber Opening ID's command and click on an opening it does the same thing as I noted above.  Not sure exactly how this is supposed to work ?

Bill Wimberley
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Opening ID

Regenerate Opening ID's goes through all the openings and renumbers them, getting rid of any missed number or letter sequence and making all identical openings have the same ID. The big advantages of letting SoftPlan do the renumbering is that it can renumber all openings no matter what floor they are on so that all drawings with identical openings will have the same opening ID. The disadvantage is that you may end up with what looks like a random order for opening numbers rather than some specific order as you go around the house. But, even if you manually change the id's you will still get openings out of order if you are using the id's properly. By properly I mean that identical openings should have identical ID's rather than worrying about what order they are around the house.

The Opening Schedule doesn't automatically update like a spreadsheet would. Instead it is representative of the openings at the time that you created the schedule. To update the Opening Schedule you can either erase the schedule and create a new one or you can edit the schedule and on the Schedule Properties tab select Regenerate. Regenerate will update the schedule to the current openings.

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jimcrook@live.com
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Opening ID

Thanks Bill ! 

 

One other question though, I like to identify each opening seperetely even though several openings may have the same size and style of window/door. 

When I select Unique ID in the System Options >Openings ID Menu I presume the Regenerate Opening ID will recognize that requirement and renumber accordingly without looking for units of similar size and style ?

 

In my Opening Schedules I typically never show more than 1 unit per opening as each opening is dealt with on it's own.   It means whomever is purchasing

the windows has to do a count of similar units within the Schedule which is a bit of a pain, but it is nicer for the builder as each room or opening has it's own specifics on the Schedule so he doesn't have to sort that out by going back to the plan views.

 

JimC

Bill Wimberley
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Opening ID

Ah, you want each opening to have its own unique label. You were on the right track, just in the wrong place. System Options ID settings only affect new projects that you have not already created. For an existing project you have to go to Model-->Project Information-->Opening Id Labels.

Personally I never use Opening Id's. Well, I say never, but I do have to use them with one guy I work with who will remain nameless (Cory). I created all of my openings with unique Product Codes. So for instance a 3'x5' tempered fixed glass window would show as 30 50 FX Tmp on both the floor plan and in an opening schedule. A 3' 15 lite door shows as 3'-0" 15 LITE. And so on.

Peter
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Opeing ID's

Hi Bill,

Can you please help on this topic? I’m currently using Softplan12.

What I'm finding when I allow Softplan to renumber my openings it lists the same openings individually with its own ID’s?

What I’m trying to achieve is with the use of this function have identical openings changed to identical ID's that are in the SP model.

Thank you in advance.

Peter

Thanks
Peter
Softplan2014 - AUS.

Bill Wimberley
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Hello Peter. What you need to

Hello Peter. What you need to do is edit your Dimension Options and select Opening ID and deselect the Unique options. If Unique is selected you get a different ID for each opening.

If you had the Unique options selected and have already added openings to the drawing then you will need to select Notes ⇒ Renumber IDs ⇒ Renumber Opening IDs to reset the IDs.

 

Peter
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Thanks Bill,

Thanks Bill,

What I’ve also found is certain doors allow the door hinge to be changed without SP un-ticking the product ID box whereby other doors do the opposite. This results in, when using the “Renumber Opening ID” function a new id is issued to the same door with a different hinge.

Is there a setting to prevent SP from un-selecting the ID box when hinges are changed preventing new door ID’s from occurring for the same door?

Bill Wimberley
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Prehung setting

If an door is defined as "Prehung" then the Product Code will uncheck if you have the hinge on the opposite side of the door as what was defined for that door. If you want to use the same door for both left and right hand openings you will need to redefine your doors in the System Library.

  1. Select File ⇒ System Options ⇒ System Library.
  2. Change the Library Type to Openings
  3. Select a door library
  4. Select a door symbol
  5. Select Edit Symbol

Select Edit Individual Component

On the Component tab uncheck Prehung and then OK until you are back to the Configure Library dialog. Repeat for all other doors you want to redefine.

This will only affect NEW drawings that you have not already inserted doors into since you are redefining the system settings. On an existing drawing that already includes doors it is a bit more involved in getting the prehung removed. AFTER you have edited all of your System openings you would go into the Drawing Library and select the Openings type then Reset All Libraries. This will remove the prehung from any new openings you add to the drawing but the existing openings will still be prehung. What I would do is go through and change each opening to another size and then change it back to the correct size. This will change the door to the new definition. You could also just delete and reinsert the doors.

Peter
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Fantastic Bill. Your help is

Fantastic Bill. Your help is greatly appreciated.

 

Cheers

Peter