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Paul Tacy
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Problem with borders
SoftPlan Version:
2014 Plus

After reading Bill W's excellent post on creating custom borders, I successfully created one for a project a month or so ago.  It fits into my plan set fine.  My problem is, apparently I didn't save it correctly, because now I can't seem to use it (or even find it) for another project.  In the tutorial, Bill says, "Just make copies of them and place the copies in a folder such as Borders.  Then when you start a new project copy the appropriate size border to the new Project folder."  On my Start Page, I have a folder under recent projects called Borders - c:\softplan2014\projects\borders\borders.spp, if that helps.  I thought that was where I saved it - when I open the folder it says it's there in the navigation bar, but the screen shows blank!  I have been fiddling with this so much, I'm sure I've mucked up the whole thing, and now would just like to start over.

Can you tell me exactly what "make copies and place them in a folder" means?  And "copy the border to the new project"?  File management is NOT my strong suit. I've read the tutorial and Chapter 2 of the manual a million times, but still don't get it.  The chapter on plan sets and including borders is no help at all.  I've tried Save As in every possible way I can imagine.  Maybe it's the word "copy" that has me confused.

Let me know if you need more information.

Thanks for being there!

Paul

Bill Wimberley
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Files of type

Paul, it sounds to me like you are using the SoftPlan Open command to search for the border. By default the Open command just shows Project names, not drawing file names. Click on the "Files of type" section and change from SoftPlan Project (*.spp) to SoftPlan Drawing (*.spd) and you should see the drawing files. You could then right click the appropriate border and select Copy. Browse to where you want to copy the border, right click and select Paste.

 

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Paul Tacy
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Bill,

Bill,

Thanks for the quick reply!

In all my groping around, I have been to that window, and have done that.  No success.

I think my problem is where, how and if I saved the border in the first place.  After creating borders, what exactly does "place the copies in a folder such as borders" mean?  The only place it shows up is in the original project folder where I created it, even though I thought I saved it elsewhere.  Now I can't find it elsewhere, and can't get it from the original project.

Paul

cbe
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Paul,

Paul,

If you open the 'Borders' project on your start page, can you see the custom border you created?  If it isn't there did you possible save it in "C:\SoftPlan2014\Title Block\"?

 

Can you tell me exactly what "make copies and place them in a folder" means?

The border is simply a file on your PC.  Bill is saying for you to make a copy of the file and paste it into the folder where your new project is located.  For example, let's say you create a project called '2015-001'.  It is located at "c:\softplan2014\projects\2015-001\".  So in the windows file explorer (or My Computer), navigate to "c:\softplan2014\projects\borders\" and make a copy of the custom border.  You can copy it by right clicking the file and selecting 'Copy'.  Then navigate to the new project folder, "c:\softplan2014\projects\2015-001\" and right click somewhere in the white space and choose paste.  The custom border should now appear as a drawing file once you open the new project in Softplan.  The trick here is that while the file is located within your project, plan-sets default to looking in the default title block folder.  You have to navigate from there to your project folder to select the custom border.

 

 

- Cory

Paul Tacy
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Problem with borders

Cory,

Thanks for weighing in.  This helps, I think, but I'm still not there.

To answer your question, when I open the Borders folder on the start page, it says my border is there - the name is in the navigation panel.  But when I open it, I get a blank page with a single line "border" way within the workspace.

I created the border in a project file called "Plainfield Barn", and tried to save it elsewhere (don't know where now, I've tried so many things).  But it is still in Plainfield Barn.

I just tried, twice, what you suggested in File Explorer.  I found the "Border" file in Plainfield Barn folder, copied it, then while still in File Explorer went to the file where I want it (Deerfield Saltbox).  I pasted, and it showed up there.  I opened Deerfield Saltbox, and it was in the navigation panel, but shows up blank when I open it.

What am I missing?

Or, how do I start over?  Obviously, if I need to copy the border from Plainfield Barn to somewhere else, I don't know how.  Sorry to be so thick.

 

Paul

Paul Tacy
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Problem with borders

Ok, here's an update:

I just followed Cory's instructions again, but instead of copying and pasting the border, I copied the first floor plan from the original project folder, and pasted it to another project.  This works perfectly!  I'm thinking there is something unique about the border that prevents me from doing the same thing.  I'm quite sure the workspace limits aren't the problem.  Maybe the border is tied exclusively to the original project through the tags??  (groping again here)  Any ideas?

Paul

Bill Wimberley
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Building Options?

Paul, the only thing I can think of, based on your description of what is happening, is that perhaps when you did the original border you placed all of the lines, text, etc. on a Building Option. If the Building Option were turned on in the original project but turned off in the new project then nothing would show in the border in the new project.

Try this. Open the border which you copied to the new project. Then from the Model tab select Building Options. Look in the Number of Items column. If you see a Building Option that has a number other than 0, indicating that it has items assigned to that Building Option, then turn that option on. See if that fixes the problem. If so then you just need to reassign everything on the border back to the Default building option.

Paul Tacy
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Problem with borders

A GENIUS!  AN ABSOLUTE GENIUS you are, Bill!

That's exactly what the problem was........how on earth did you figure this out?

Tonight I'm going into the border and change everything to the default option.

Thank you....thank you!

 

Paul