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jimcrook@live.com
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Plan Set Numbering
SoftPlan Version:
2014 Plus

I was creating a Plan Set using my Title Block with the "Plan Set Page # Stamp" setup in the appropriate box of my Title Block Page.

I placed an A in front of the stamp so that each new page I created numbered in succession i.e A-1, A-2, A-3 etc.

The numbering works fine as I create new Plan Pages until I want to change to an S - prefix for Section Drwgs or D-prefix for Detail Drwgs.

Since the Title Block page is in essence is the same one used for each page I create when I change the pre-fix it wants to change the pre-fix

for all the pages I've already done.  Plus it wants to keep numbering upwards.  I want to change from A-1 or A2 to S-1, but if I change the

prefix in front of the Plan Page Stamp but leave the drawings in order it will create S-3 or S-4 when I want S-1 because I already used 1,2,3

with the A prefix.   How do we use the Plan Set Page Number Stamp on the base Title Block page but be able to both change pre-fix's and

have the numbering restart where we need it to ?  Am I making this sound more complicated than it is ?

 

Thanks

Jim

Bill Wimberley
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Plan Sets

Jim, use the @PLAN_SET_PAGE_NUMBER stamp for your page number. Create a Plan set and name it something like Plans. It really doesn't matter what you call it. Then right click the Plan Set and select Add Group. Give the Group the name A. Create another Group and name it S. Then either Right click on each Group and select Add Page or if you already have your pages set up you can just drag the pages into the groups. You will notice that all the pages under the A Group will be labeled A1. + the name of the page, A2. + the name of the page and so on. Same for the S Group. The @PLAN_SET_PAGE_NUMBER information stamp will number the pages A1, A2, A3, S1, S2, etc. It's all automagical.

Bill is the owner and maintainer of SoftPlanTuts.com

jimcrook@live.com
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Page Numbering

Thanks Bill, appreciate it !

 

 

JimC

jimcrook@live.com
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Plan Set Numbering

I have some further questions about Plan Set Numbering.

 

Following Bill Wimberley's direction I got sorted out on numbering by creating seperate Groups within the Plan Set stack that allow me to switch the Pre-fix Letters automatically i.e. I can use an A pre-fix such as A1, A2, A3 etc by setting up an "A" group but when I need to switch to S1,S2 or D1,D2 I can do so by setting up an "S" group.  I place drawing in the correct group and voila  Softplan will then number the drawings correctly and automatically according to the order they are placed within each group.

 

Now I have decided that it is better to have the Title Block Base drawing that the Plan Sets point to directly within the project folder rather than referring to

it in the Title Blocks folder within the Softplan 2014 File on the root drive.   However when I try to set up each Plan Set and it's time to identify where to get the Title Block from the menu defaults to the Root Drive Sytem Titleblocks file.  This means to get to the Title Block I have within my actual project I have to go through about 8 or 9 clicks surfing windows explorer to get back to the Title Block I want to use that is within my project folder.   If I setup a bunch of PLan Set Groups all at once every time I try to setup the Title I want to use I have to go through this surf and click process again aand again.   So this is a long way about asking my question.   Is there a way to point the Plan Set menu that asks which border to use at my project folder or at least somewhere that will reduce the amount of clicks req'd to select what I want ?

 

Thanks

JimC

jimcrook@live.com
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Plan Set Numbering

I am able to setup the Plan Sets to number in order i.e. A1, A2, A3 etc.    But I actually like to number my plans like this A1.1, A2.1, A3.1 etc.

Then if we make revisions to say A1.1 it will then become A1.2 so I know which is the most current and/or that the plans have had revisions made to them.

Anyway, right now Softplan numbers with a single number such as A1.  Is there a way to make it number as follows A1.1 ?

 

Thanks

JimC

Bill Wimberley
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Numbering

I can't think of any way to do what you are talking about with the numbering. All I can suggest is to put a no-print note on your border to indicate the last date that you modified the plans. If you also place either the @DATE or @ DATE_SHORT stamps on your border you can see from looking at the dates on the printouts when the drawings were printed. You could also put a Revisions column on your border and each time you do a revision enter a new date at the bottom of the list of revision dates.

Bill Wimberley
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Plan Set Title Block

Unfortunately, no. Prior to 2014's release I complained, whined, explained, and begged SoftPlan to allow us to have a choice between automatically going to the Title Block folder or the current project folder when setting up borders. But to no avail. I don't use SoftPlan's Title block setup and I never will until they allow us to create our own custom information stamps. Without custom Information Stamps I can not use the method of setting up title blocks that SoftPlan thinks we should use. So, just as you have discovered, I have to browse my way all the way back to the current Project folder whenever I set up a border.

Bill M
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I created my own title block

I created my own title block 9 years ago from one of the ones in the systems folder.  Once set up for a project I just edit the page number and title, pretty quick and straight forward.  

Bill Wimberley
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Title Blocks

Bill, instead of having to edit the title blocks you can now have them pull information from the Project Information and if you use Plan Sets to set up your pages you can have the pages numbered automatically.

For the Project Name place the @PROJECT_NAME information stamp on your border in the location where you want the name of the Project. If you will fill out the Project Information form at Model ⇒ Project Information you can use information stamps to automatically bring in any of that information.

If you will use the information stamp @PLAN_SET_PAGE_NUMBER in the location where you want your page number then Plan Sets will number your pages for you.

If you use @plan_set_page_title you can get the title you gave the page when you created it in the Plan Set.

Lots of other information that can be automatically inserted using information stamps such as the current date, customer name, your company information, project information, etc. For instance if you use @company_phone to place your phone number on the plans all of your plans can automatically have your new phone number just by editing File ⇒ System Options ⇒​ Company Information and change your phone number.

Bill M
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I'll check it out Bill,

I'll check it out Bill, thanks for the info.

jimcrook@live.com
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Re: Plan Set Title Block

Bill W.  I've been fooling around with this issue of the Border Menu defaulting to the System Title Blocks file and have come up with the following;

I placed the Title Block I wanted to use directly into my specific Project Folder using Windows Explorer.  I then used the Copy command in Windows Explorer to copy that file path which is in Project Folder that  I'm working on.   Now when I am going thru setting up the the Planset and get to the Border command I click it which takes me to the System Title Block page but I just Paste from teh Windows Clipboard the copied file name ( which refers it back to the Title Block in my project and voila there it is to select).  This makes for far fewer clicks than continuing to go back into my File Structure where I keep my stock Title Block each and every time I want to specify the Border.

 

I think the Paste function in Windows Clipboard should continue to Paste the proper file path until I either use Windows Explorer to Copy something else or close out of the project.  In other words I don't think Softplan will do anything within it's commands to change that file waiting to pasted by Windows Clipboard !

 

However to take it further if you create a drawing within your project upon which to keep the pasted file path you can quickly type it into the Windows File Path Bar or surf back to it in Windows and re-copy it into Windows Clipboard memory again.

 

The whole thing is still a little cumbersome but much less so with far fewer clicks than having to surf back to the file every time you setup a Planset Border.

 

JimC

farwood
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I have a custom title block

I have a custom title block setup in the title block file, and it takes one click to open it up.    i'm probably missing the conversation here.

In the planset, once I've opened one title block to that planset, then there are no clicks to open the title block after that,

Yeah, i'm probably misunderstanding the issue, since i read too fast.

Plansets are/is great.     Would be nice to be able to setup our own name for stuff.

Bill Wimberley
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Title blocks

Hey farwood. The problem is that if you use the same title block in all drawings you can not put any project specific information on the title block other than what can be automatically placed using information stamps. So, for instance, if you need to put the subdivision name, block, and lot number on the border you can't do that with information stamps. To get around this limitation Jim and I copy the border into our projects each time we create a new project and then we can edit the border to include any project specific information. The only problem with doing this is that when we go to set up the border for our plan sets SoftPlan automatically goes to the Title Block folder rather than looking in the current project for the border. This means that you have to browse all the way back to your current project in order to select your border. Jim came up with a good solution that saves quite a few clicks by saving the address to the Windows clipboard, thus making it much simpler to set up the border in plan sets.

farwood
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I get it, and of course I use

I get it, and of course I use the extra items like Model is my Parcel # etc.  I remember you refuse to do that until they fix the program.   I would not put the customer's email,phone ,fax or mobile on the plans so can use those for info.   Contact would also be open for me.

I figure it is another work around like I've done for years, and sometimes the work arounds have been because I didn't understand the program.      The main improvement I would like to see for me is that the plansets would be up on a roll down menu, like sorta maybe similar to how Multis have , but a click and the plansets would roll down to select, and go back there when not open.    I end up with so many plans open I hunting too much.

jimcrook@live.com
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Phone Number

Why would I want to put my phone number on my plans, then the clients could call and yell at me, lol ;-)

 

JimC

Bill Wimberley
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Personally identifiable information

Jim, I can see how in your case including any personally identifiable information might be a bad thing wink But then how are they going to contact you to give you the coolest design of the year award?

jimcrook@live.com
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Shhh!

Shhh, the award is yours !  I have to stay in hiding, lol ;-)

 

JimC