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Matthewglidden
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Newbie with questions
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2014

First how do I draw a beam into my floor plan by the corner and not the center. 

Also, I have my walls drawn and was moving onto the roof drawing and noticed my walls were a different color then my columns and beams(which are not showing up all of a sudden). Back to the walls, all of ten connect on the drawing tab but when I switch to roof I have a back section that isn't mittering together. 

The plan I'm working on has tray ceilings going from 8'-9'. How to I populate that information when drawing my ceiling joist layout. 

 

When doing a gable end roof how do I get the eyebrows at the bottom of the able to populate when I go shoot a front elevation.?.

 

thanks so much in advance for the help I've drawn in cad since I've started my career and I'm trying to make the change and learn the new stuff

matt

2014

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Bill Wimberley
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Beams are drawn by the center in SoftPlan. There isn't any place to change that.

In Roof Mode the different colors denote the different wall and beam heights. Everything that is the same height will be the same color in Roof Mode. If you want to see what that height is you can go to Options tab ⇒ Visible Items ⇒ Roof and check Plate Height.

In Roof Mode only Bearing walls will show. Non-Bearing walls do not show in Roof Mode.

As for why your walls are not mitering together I couldn't tell you without actually looking at the drawing file. But my first guess would be that your walls are different heights or elevations. That will sometimes prevent them from mitering. Or perhaps you have some of the walls set to "hidden".

For your tray ceilings you would build it just like in the actual house. Put in some beams and the joists would be at the 2 different elevations. To set an elevation for a joist you use Levels. There is a tutorial that covers Levels. Understanding Joist Levels

When doing a gable end roof how do I get the eyebrows at the bottom of the able to populate when I go shoot a front elevation.?.

I don't understand that question. Can you please explain?

 

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Matthewglidden
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ON the gable end some

ON the gable end some builders here run a little piece of decking from corner to corner with the same roof pitch and it allows them to put a little addition of shingles on the bottom of the gable.... Like a Boston hip only its the full length of the gable end

Bill Wimberley
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Dutch gable

Not being from Boston I don't know what a Boston hip is. If you are looking for something like this then SoftPlan calls it a Dutch Gable. Just edit the edge of the roof and change it to a Dutch Gable. Adjust the Distance to set the distance back that the gable sits. If you were talking about something else how about providing a picture so we can know what you are trying to do.

 

Matthewglidden
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thats it!!  thank you

thats it!!  thank you

Larry
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Beams

I draw in my beams as close as I can.  then I go to dimensions and change the extension from center to edge.  Then I shorten the length of the beam so as to pull it away from the wall.  Re-dimension the edge of the beam the same as the wall and then lengthen it back to the edge of the wall.  

Does all this make sense??  And does it even answer your question??

Bill Wimberley
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Beams

I have redefined all my beams to dimension to the outside. I also made the line on the outside of the beam red so that it is obvious which side is the outside. In addition to this I added a None material to each beam and gave it the same height as the beam, 0" width, and 0" vertical and horizontal starts. The result is beams that behave much like exterior walls when you insert them. When inserting the beam the first click defines the start position. Second click defines the end position. And third click determines which side is the outside.

If I need to align a beam up with a wall I use the Align to Edge tool. Move tab ⇒ Align to Edge. Click on the edge of the wall where you want to align the beam then click on the edge of the beam you want to align with the wall and the beam moves right into place.

 

Larry
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When you make changes like

When you make changes like this, and a new version of Softplan comes out, do you have to re-do all this stuff again??

Bill Wimberley
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New versions

No, I export my settings from the old version and import them into the new. System Options ⇒ Archive. There are backup and restore buttons. You select what you want to backup from the old version and then in the new version you restore.

Larry
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Thanks Bill,

Thanks Bill,

I made the beam change to one of my beams and it only works on a new project.  Not the old drawings, Correct??  Did I not read somewhere you could re-set to system options with the new changes and the old drawing will update?

Bill Wimberley
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System Definitions vs Drawing Definitions

If you make a change in the System Definitions the change will only affect any new drawings you create. To affect an existing drawing you have to either make the change in the Drawing Options beam settings or select Drawing Options ⇒ Define Beam ⇒ Reset to System after you have made the changes to the System beam settings.

Matthewglidden
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Thanks for all the help on

Thanks for all the help on here. I've been crazy busy with my other two jobs but I plan on finishing a plan this weekend so hopefully all this information will be a lot of help