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vince
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Help with Beam
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2014 Plus

Hi Bill/all,

 

When I placed an LVL beam on top of walls these studs are automatically added.

 

BEFORE

AFTER

BEFORE                                   AFTER

    

- Is there a way/setting to control this studs addition? I can't even erase/edit the added studs in the corner/angled wall.

- Is there a way/setting to control where the beam ends/stops when placed perpendicular to the wall over the top plate?

- Is there a way/setting to place the beam at a certain elevation instead of changing the Offset after the beam is placed?

 

Thanks!

ChrisStewart
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- Is there a way/setting to

- Is there a way/setting to control this studs addition? I can't even erase/edit the added studs in the corner/angled wall.

I tried it and had no problem erasing the new studs or moving them.

I did have a problem adding new studs to the angled wall. They would add at the center of the wall but not at the edges.

There is a checkbox on the wall edit menu called default stud placement it will add the outside studs.

 

- Is there a way/setting to control where the beam ends/stops when placed perpendicular to the wall over the top plate?

Yes. Edit the beam, select end options on the menu and change the top and bottom projections

 

- Is there a way/setting to place the beam at a certain elevation instead of changing the Offset after the beam is placed?

No, I don't think so. It places it automatically to the plate hieght and has to be edited.

 

Bill Wimberley
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Beams

- Is there a way/setting to control this studs addition? I can't even erase/edit the added studs in the corner/angled wall.

You can't control how the studs are initially added but in Framing Mode you can move them, delete them, or add more studs. Also, the larger the Projection setting for the end of the beam the more studs will be automatically added, up to a certain number. From my experience up to 3 studs will be added for a corner. Studs that are manually added or moved will change to a different color from the studs that are automatically added.

 

- Is there a way/setting to control where the beam ends/stops when placed perpendicular to the wall over the top plate?

You can control the depth of the beam into the wall by editing the beam and adjusting the Projections. Projection settings are found on the End Options tab when editing the beam. Set your projection to be the total depth you want the beam to penetrate into the wall, including any materials that are not visible. Assuming your wall has 1/2" drywall but it is not visible and 3 1/2" studs and that you want the beam to go through one side of drywall but not the other side then you would set the projection to 4". The initial projection setting will default to the same distance as the width of the beam. So if you have a 3" wide beam then the default projection for that beam will be 3". In some cases a Cleanup will automatically set the correct projection if you have not previously manually edited the projection.

 

- Is there a way/setting to place the beam at a certain elevation instead of changing the Offset after the beam is placed?

If you draw the beam so that it touches a wall while you are drawing the beam then the top of the beam will automatically be at the top of the wall. If you draw the beam so that it does not touch any walls then the bottom of the beam will be at elevation 0". If a beam is touching a wall and cleanup is enabled for the beam then doing a plan Cleanup will automatically move the top of the beam to be at the top of the wall. If Cleanup is turned off for the beam then Cleanup will have no effect on the elevation of the beam. There is no default height that a beam will be drawn at other than 0" or the top of an intersecting wall.

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vince
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Thanks Chris and Bill!

Thanks Chris and Bill!

 

I set Join Tolerance (Top & Bottom) to 0, then no studs were added at the perpendicular wall and I also was able to line up the end of the beam with the plate.

 

But at the other end of the beam, it was deleting (more like hiding since SoftList reported the same amount of studs before and after beam was added) a stud no matter what setting I use for Join Tolerance and Projections.

 

BEFORE                    AFTER

   

 

   

 

I had to do an Add Stud only if I needed to show it in a framing plan or other views.

 

Changing Projections values didn't have any effects on studs additions or deletions.

 

Thanks again.

Bill Wimberley
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Corners

In Framing Mode you can define which walls and which ends of the walls are the "corners". If your long wall is defined to have the corner then it will receive additional studs when the beam is placed at the corner. If the short angled wall is defined to have the corner then the additional studs will not be added to the long wall when the beam is placed.

ANGLED WALL SET TO CORNER

LONG WALL SET TO CORNER

vince
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If your long wall is defined

If your long wall is defined to have the corner then it will receive additional studs when the beam is placed at the corner.

 

Actually a stud was deleted/hidden (as shown on the attached picts above) instead of added.

In any case, where do I find the setting for whether angled or wall set to corner you mentioned?

Bill Wimberley
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Corner

In Framing Mode edit somewhere on the wall, away from a stud. A dialog will come up where you can define which ends of the wall will have corners. Also, you can change the corner style to be different than your default if you want.

vince
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Corner Check Boxes

OK, found 'em! Thanks Bill!

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