General question about walls

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Bill M
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General question about walls
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2014 Plus

In the opinion of users, what is the best way to build a wall that has two separate materials.  I have folks wanting a wainscot of say brick or stone with siding or other material above.  I have created new walls in the past but I'm not sure that this can be done with that method.  Is it better to say draw a 3 foot stone wall and stack another wall on top to get the desired outcome?

Bill Wimberley
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Walls

You should build the wall by creating a wall definition that contains all of the materials you want in the wall. Stacking walls on top of each other is not a good option. It will cause all sorts of problems such as making it very difficult for corners to join up, difficulties in editing and dimensioning, and a whole host of other problems you experience when having 2 walls in the same location.

You can create a new wall by using the Save As function in the wall definitions. Select a wall that closely resembles the wall you want to define. Say for instance you want to create a wall that has brick on the bottom 3' and then siding above. You could select an existing brick wall and use save as and give it a name such as brick 3'/siding. then edit the brick and air space and set them to 3' and check the 'fixed' boxes for these materials. Then add a siding material and adjust it to fill the space above the brick. Do not set the siding to fixed. The fixed checkbox locks a material to the specified height. So you could use the same wall definition to create an 8' wall as well as any other wall taller than 3' and the brick will always remain 3' tall. Since the siding is not set to fixed it will adjust in height with the height of the wall.

The Display Height setting will allow you to determine which material shows in the plan. If you want the upper material to show then increase the Display Height setting so that the green line in the preview crosses through the siding. If you want the lower material to show then decrease the Display Height so the green line goes through the lower material.

Here is an example of a wall with multiple materials. The stone is set to 4' high and fixed. Then on top of that is a shake material set to 12" high, fixed, and with a custom profile to produce the curved shape. Finally the rest of the exterior is shake and not fixed. The wall can vary in height and the stone and curved shake portion will remain the same height. Just the upper shake portion will adjust with the varying wall heights.

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Bill M
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I will look at doing this.  I

I will look at doing this.  I wasn't sure two materials could be used in the same wall like this. 

Bill M
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Bill I'm finally going to

Bill I'm finally going to attempt this today.  Got a little slack time so trying to catch up on items that I've been writing down since becoming a member here.  This is priority after getting my tool bars customized.  

JasonDentDesign
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put siding above brick

ok so I'm a new user trying to create this new wall. I try "add material" and it lists new material at bottom putting on the inside in detail.Is there an easy way to add material mid list? and how do I add the sill/cap between siding and brick. Sorry for all the questions. Also how about natural stone option and variety of such.

Thanks so much for your time.

Bill Wimberley
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Defining a Custom Wall

Hello Jason. I would recommend watching these videos to get a good start on how to define walls. If you have further questions please don't hesitate to ask.

Defining a Custom Wall

Defining a Wall

JasonDentDesign
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walls

Thanks so much...lol. I will. Now I've messed up my 2x6 Brick wall detail and I can't get it back to original.

Bill M
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Well it worked very well.  I

Well it worked very well.  I created a second wall after the first by changing a couple of items.  I do wonder how to create a rowlock to put at the top of the wainscot that sticks out about 3/4 to 1" though.  You can't enter negative numbers in for the starting position.  Anyway, here they are.  Thanks for the info on this Bill.

Bill Wimberley
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Wainscot cap

To create a wainscot cap you would define the cap with a 0" horizontal start. Then you have the masonry with a 3/4" or 1" horizontal start. Basically, you just move everything in the distance you want the cap to project over the masonry.

Bill M
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I had thought about that Bill

I had thought about that Bill and will do make the change.  Thanks.