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jimcrook@live.com
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Dimension Display
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2016 Plus

Isn't there a setting in 2016 that allows us to turn off fractions so that dimensions only display to the nearest inch ?

 

JimC

Bill Wimberley
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Rounding

You can round individual dimensions but I don't believe there is a setting to globally round all dimensions.

 

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yvongonthier
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Fractions

Maybe this is what you meant Jim? This is 2014, not sure if different with 2016?

Bill Wimberley
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Show Fractions

Yvon, the problem with the Show Fractions setting is that it is a temporary setting, just like the Angle in Pitch setting. The next time you open the project the fractions will be back. And secondly it merely trims off the fractions, it doesn't do any rounding. So for instance a dimension of 8'-3 7/8" would show as 8'-3" if you have Show Fractions turned off. If you use Rounding then it would display as 8'-4", assuming you are rounding to the nearest 1".

jimcrook@live.com
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Fractions

Yvon, yes I think that was what I was remembering, but now that Bill has enlightened us I can see it wouldn't have done me any good anyways.

 

Bill, I was trying to do a global setting in both the Drawings Options and System  Options menus.  I never think of editing an individual dimension

for some reason, but alas it does solve the immediate problem.  Thanks guys for your feedback !

 

JimC

Bill Wimberley
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Fractions

Jim, out of curiosity, why would you want to eliminate all fractions? Without the fractions your dimensions are are not accurate.

I occasionally use the rounding function to round to a reasonable factor, such as 1/8". This is only an issue on certain angled walls where the fraction comes out to something weird like 5/32". The rest of the time I want all my dimensions to be exact. I guess it is just the framer in me.

I have seen some plans where the guy drawing the plans eliminated the fractions by having two different wall definitions for interior walls. He had a 3 1/2" wall and a 4" wall. He would use the 4" wall to avoid the fractions. But I personally wouldn't do that. Fractions are legitimate and accurate dimensions. And I am all about accuracy. I don't want a wall twisted by 1/2" or hanging out over the slab 1/2" just so I can avoid fractions.

jimcrook@live.com
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Fractions

Bill, I agree with you and I rarely would want to round anything to the nearest inch.   But in this case the project was an "as-built" deck

with numerous angles on the cottage and corresponding deck.   I'm doing remediation drawings addressing deficiencies in the guards

( railings ) and relocating the posts and beams.  But the deck itself is not changing in size or shape.   But with all the various angles on

the deck I could not get the exterior dimensions of the deck itself to come out to exact rounded dimensions.   It looks weird when you

adjust a couple of planes to be say 12'-0" then 11'-8" then a few like 14'-2-13/16" then 9'-0-5/16" etc. For the purposes of this project it

is much cleaner and more professional looking to round those fractionalized dimensions to the nearest inch as they are an info only 

item not framing directions.

JimC

bhturner63
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Fractions in Dimensions

Hi Bill, I am a newby to Softplan, but after working with it for about 2 weeks now, I have completed my first "real" house plan complete with floor plan, elevations, roof plan and rendering. I have worked with Autocad for almost 20 years, and I have to say I absolutely love Softplan. But to add my 2 cents on the discussion about fractions, as long as I have been drawing plans, never never ever are there to be any fractions on a floor plan. I draw for several contractors now a days, and I can promise you, if I were to give them a plan that had fractions on it they would bring it back and make me fix it. (lol) So I just make sure as I design a plan that I have perfect numbers all the way. smiley

 

Bill Wimberley
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Fractions

Fractions are just a fact of life. Studs are 1 1/2" x 3 1/2". Wall heights are not exactly 8', 9', etc. tall. I draw all my plans to exact dimensions. If the builder doesn't like my dimensions he can white them out and write in his own.

 

Bill M
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Bill does the dimension stay

Bill does the dimension stay showing at 1/8" as opposed to 5/32"?  That is something that drives me crazy on angled walls and I've never known a way around it.

yvongonthier
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Rounding dimensions

I also round off fractions to a more site realistic fraction (you start to get comment specially from the foundation guys when you have very small fractions). I taught I had seen that 2016 had some news setting features but I guess not. Would be nice if you could set a default fraction increment such as 1/8" or 1/4".

marty
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dimension rounding

So....I am looking for a solution for these rounding of fractions. Im using 2016. We do a lot of angled walls in our homes and the dimensions are quite often to 1/32". We do not like those so we only want 1/16. What I have found is a potential for disaster. Once I round the dimension to a 1/16 and show the value, it will always show (i.e. 4'-0") even if the wall is moved 6". That dimension will not be off 6"!  This seems completely ridiculous. Anyway to keep the properties of the dimension to 1/16" and keep the dimension active? 

This is a big issue.

 

 

yvongonthier
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Rounding

I agree Marty. It use to be that if you checked the box for rounding on a dimension, anytime you would move something it would give you a warning even if you check the box not to ask again. Now, it doesn't show a warning even if you don't check the box.

 

The only help is that a dimension is in red if it's a text but even that is limited because if you use the colors assigned to a layer or building option, this feature isn't visible anymore. Hope someone has a better solution.