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Gurb
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Adding a roof

Hi Bill how are you doing hope great. Has a quick technical question. how  can i add a roof to this house as i have small porch on the front roof and the room on top of the garage is suspended by about 2 feet, so there will be a small roof addition on top of the garage floor.

really apprecieated

thx

Kindly

Gurb

Bill Wimberley
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Roof

I would add plates where the walls and beams are below and attach the roof to the plates. I know the SoftPlan tutorials in the manual say to use a multi-floor roof but I never use multi-floor roofs. I always use plates.

Also, look at your floor system on the second floor. You included sill plates in the floor system. Sill plates would be used on top of concrete or block walls but not on top of wood walls like you have on the first floor. Having these sill plates on the second floor will raise your floor an additional 1.5".

Bill is the owner and maintainer of SoftPlanTuts.com

Gurb
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Bill you are Awesome

Hi Bill thx loads

i clearly got the sill plant exclusion point.

just regarding:

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Roof

I would add plates where the walls and beams are below and attach the roof to the plates. I know the SoftPlan tutorials in the manual say to use a multi-floor roof but I never use multi-floor roofs. I always use plates."

 

1.where would i get the plates? I checked under walls didnt find them?

2. should i add plates as soon as i copy the main floor and make a second floor using "save as" command , because this way i dont know where  the underlying floor ended?

3. should i add the plates to the second floor with a 0 offset or the main level?

4.After adding the plates did uuse auto roof command?

 

also a small feeback on the website. It would be nice to change the SAVE button to SUBMIT button as if more clear that ways.

thx

Kindly,

Gurb

 

 

 

 

 

Gurb
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wow

Hi Bill

How  did you add the pitch signs and floor height everywhere on the roof?

Bill Wimberley
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Pitch Signs and Plate Heights

While in Roof Mode select the Options Tab then Visible Items. In the Roof Group Visibilities section check Plate Height and Roof Pitch to make them visible.

Bill Wimberley
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Roof

1. The plates are in your list of walls. You have to scroll down the list a ways to find them. If you download the file I attached to the previous post you will see the plates and where I added them.

2. To find where the the walls are below select File-->Overlay and select the name of the floor that is below. This will give you dashed lines showing where the walls are on the floor below.

3. Add the plates to the second floor and set the offset to 1.5" down if the walls and beams below are all at the same height. See these tutorials for more information. Proper Use of Reference Points and Calculating Buildable Area in an Attic Space .

4. I used Auto Roof to add the upper roof and Trace Roof to add the lower roofs.

 

Gurb
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Bill u r the Softplan Guru

Thanks loads very valuable info.

im predesigning a plan then ill send it to you to get an estimate to finalize the details. what kind of details would you need.

Actually this plan is very similar to the house i built last year, would it help if i sent you a copy of my last house plans. the are couple of changes

one the basement is jetted out a bit

two- there is a room on top of the garage. Are you familiar with hotboxes? these are for  insulating the garage roof ceiling, if one has a roof on top of it.

thx

Gurb

Bill Wimberley
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Hey Gurb, whenever you have your plan ready just send it to me with as much information as you have about it. Roof pitches, floor system configurations, exterior finishes, etc. After I take a look at it I'll get with you about any questions I may have.

Gurb
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overlay

thx Bill. i used the overlay command and dont see any change? im also going through the reference point tutorial

i also used the circle reference point but still can see the shape of the overlay? kinda confused

kindly Gurb

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Bill Wimberley
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Overlay

I opened the plans you had attached and you used Overlay correctly. Overlay doesn't affect 3D or anything else. All it does is allow you to see a dashed line representation of another floor plan. For instance here is a portion of your second floor with the first floor overlayed. The dashed lines represent the beams on the front porch and the walls that are on the first floor.

 

Gurb
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got it

Oh how dumb of me, i couldnt see the overlay coz i had a roof on top.I just deleted the roof and saw it.

thx

Gurb

Gurb
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gable roof

Hi Bill,

is there any command that i can use to change the default hip roof to gable roof? man i tried changing form the reference points n for a horrible one sided gable?

thx

Gurb

Bill Wimberley
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Gable Roof

No, roofs default to hips. Then you edit them to something else if that is what you want.

The latest files that you attached have a few problems:

  1. On the 2nd floor the long wall on the left side is offset up 11" up while all of the rest of the walls on the 2nd floor are offset 11.625" up. This will cause your roof to be low on the left side.
  2. On the 2nd floor the stair wall closest to the front of the house is doubled. You have 2 walls in the same place. This is causing a twisting on the long wall on the left which I mentioned above. Delete one of the walls. You should almost never have 2 walls in the same place as they will cause problems.
  3. The outside wall at the stairway is 2x4 on the first floor but 2x6 on the second floor.
  4. You ran your floor system around the stair well rather than running the floor system across the stair well and then cutting out a hole for it. This leaves a gap in the floor system on the left side. The result is that the wall at the stairway has no floor under it and this is causing there to be a gap along the entire left side of the building where the exterior does not automatically fill in over the floor system. Redo the floor system, covering the stairs in the process, then use Draw-->Hole Rectangle or Hole Polygon to cut out for the stairway.