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Bill M
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2 story question
SoftPlan Version:
13

Hello folks, new here.  I'm stuck at V13 as the home building business got very slow and I didn't know if I would continue.  I am now concentrating on strictly design work for other builders.  If business does well enough I will upgrade to 2014.  It looks to be very fascinating software.

 

I have done minimal 2 story drawing and they have been very simple.  I am currently drawing one that will be siding on the top floor and stone on the lower so the siding will have to layover the top of the stone.  Of course drawing this does not allow the exterior walls of each level to line up.  What needs to happen here?  Also I'm assuming I need to draw the joist set for the lower floor in order for the elevation to be correct.  Thanks for any advise.

farwood
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wood frame I assume,   

wood frame I assume,    basically i would suggest you set your wall definitions up like you want the walls to be,   like make the siding 1" and the stone one inch.   build your wall definition just like you want the wall to be.

 

I could imagine using 2x4 studs first wall and 2x6 top and let the 2 extra "  uptop hang over the stone.       You can do 2x4 up and down and maybe fur out the top wall some with a sideway 2x4.

I always turn off the visiblity of the inside visible,outside visible and texture visible of everything except the wall studs I have marked as bearing, and this way you are lining the floors up(bearing) and it is easy to see on the floor plan.   The exterior finishes shown on the floor plan have no value to show in my world.    They'll still show on the 3D and elevations.      Guess you probably know to place the reference points on each floor and also assemble in the correct order, to show 3d and elevation. 

Bill M
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Thanks for the comments

Thanks for the comments Farwood.  The stone is actually going to be laid like brick so 1 inch won't work.  I know they will cantilever the joists but there are some 45° walls upstairs and those walls may have to be built out to make it good.  There are matching windows in those walls though.  I'm going to try and catch up with the framer tomorrow to talk to him about it.  He happens to be the same framer I've used for the past 8 years and actually helped me land this client.  Thanks again.

 

 

Bill Wimberley
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2 story siding over stone

If I'm understanding what you are trying to do then this is the method I use.

Use Overlay to show the stone walls below. Adjust the upper walls so that the inside of the siding is in the same location as the outside of the stone below.

The floor joists would extend out over the stone. On the sides that are perpendicular to the main floor joist runs you would put in short joists perpendicular to the main run so that the joists extend over the stone.

In the first image below I cut the second floor wall so that it would be more obvious how I aligned the upper and lower walls.

 

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Bill M
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Bill yes that is what I'm

Bill yes that is what I'm referring to but in this case the part of the top floor is open to the lower so the interior walls line up but the exterior where the siding is over the stone do not.   I have posted a screen shot from the drawing.

 

 

Bill Wimberley
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Double Wall

In a situation where you have a 2 story wall with stone on the bottom and siding on the top I do it something like this.

 

Bill M
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Thanks again Bill.  I spoke

Thanks again Bill.  I spoke with the framer for the builder who use to also frame for me and he said they would furr the wall out as you are showing.  

 

Nice site BTW, hope you continue it.  Been going through some of the videos on here.