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Matthewglidden
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2 Story House
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2014 Plus

Good Evening,

  I'm trying to do a two story house for a client so I can get my feet wet doing a two story since I thing I have my one story ranch houses under control.  Still trying to get use to the buttons and how everything works but its slowly getting faster.

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 I've drawn the first floor floor inserted my stairs and put a reference point on a wall that the second story stacks on.  I then did a save as command and saved it as "2nd Floor"  I deleted walls I didnt need and inserted the ones I did and the second floor is completed as well.

How do I get my second floor to insert on the first floor and then do my multi-roof system? Also, Do I have to draw a floor system in order for my elevations to work correctly? Ex.1st floor is @ 9'1-1/8" plus 16" floor system then 8'1-1/8" for my second floor walls, giving me my overall height for my elevation.. Or will it work once I get my 2nd floor to stack over the first floor...

Reference points----Do I need them on both the first and second floor.

Thanks so much for the advice.
Matthew Glidden

rodl
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Multi Floor Roofs

Bill Wimberley
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2 story

To get your 2nd story on top of the 1st simply drag it up into the Model area of the Navigation Panel. Arrange the floors from highest to lowest. In other words, the 1st floor would be on the bottom and the 2nd would be on top.

Yes, in order for your elevations to be correct you must draw in a floor system on the 2nd floor. After placing the floor system and while still in Floor System Mode do a Cleanup (Ctrl + C) to assure that the floors move to be on top of the floor system.

Once you have the floor system drawn and you have your walls properly located on top of the floor system then you can draw in your roof.

Yes, you need a reference point on both floors. Make sure that you use the round reference point for stacking floors since it has the added function of defining the elevation of the 2nd floor as well as the alignment.

 

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Bill M
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Matthew I hope you don't mind

Matthew I hope you don't mind me asking this on your 2 story thread instead of starting a new one.  It has to do with covering the floor system space with the exterior facade material.  I show a space between the two floors when I stack them.  This is not a big deal unless doing textured or rendered elevations.  

Should I create special walls where the exterior material of the wall extends into the floor system space or is there and easier method to fill this space.

farwood
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I think you want to edit the

I think you want to edit the wall and check "Adjust wall surface to ""cover floor""   .    This would be on the 2nd floor walls.  some times when something is not correct, which i haven't totally figured yet, the wall material won't cover, maybe the floor is not adjusted correctly or something?

Bill M
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Thanks for this information.

Thanks for this information.  I'll check that out.  Has this command been available in all previous versions?

farwood
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I don't remember, or don't

I don't remember, or don't remember using it,   at that time it could have been there .  was in 2012

Bill Wimberley
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Cover Floor

The Cover Floor option should be automatically enabled for walls that are on the edge of a floor system. If there is no floor system attached to the wall then the option is not available. In this context I'm referring to a joist or floor truss floor system, not a slab.

This behavior has been available for as far back as I can remember so it is nothing new.

farwood
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Matt's roof
Bill Wimberley
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Matt's Roof

Nice Video :) You seemed to be struggling a little on the roof so let me help you out there.

First of all you are using the Add Roof command. I find that most of the time Trace Roof gives better results.

In the case of the rear patio roof you were not able to get the roof to plane back onto the main roof. Trace roof should have taken care of that automatically. But if you use Add Roof you can correct the roof by editing the inside roof edge of the patio and change it to intersect and when it asks if you want it to be vertical say No. Also make sure that Auto Pitch is selected. That would take care of the patio roof.

The front gable roof should have been done on the 2nd floor rather than the 1st floor. This would have avoided the problem you were having with the edge that was angled. If you had done it on the 2nd floor it would have planed back onto the main roof if the edge was set to Auto Pitch and Intersect.

The small rear roof should have been done on the 2nd floor as well. Then the inside edge would have automatically attached to the 2nd story wall instead of just floating out in space.

You should do all of your roofs on the same plan whenever possible. Occasionally I will run into a bizarre situation that requires doing the roof on different drawings but almost all of the time I do the roof on just the highest drawing. One really big reason for this is when you go to generate a roof plan portions of the roof will be missing if you have them on multiple drawings.

Great job on the video. I always enjoy seeing how other people do things.

farwood
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I'm thinking maybe auto pitch

I'm thinking maybe auto pitch is what I'm missing. I'll check that.     I do a lot of stuff different than I see others do. 

Bill M
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I discovered what you are

I discovered what you are saying about putting the roof on a single floor on the plan I'm working on.  Definitely makes life easier.

Bill M
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I enjoyed the video farwood.

I enjoyed the video farwood.  I figured out how to auto-hide the navigation panel but I am wondering what setting you are using to put the cursor on your rendering to rotate it like you do in the video.  

farwood
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Bill, I'm not sure totally

Bill, I'm not sure totally what allows me to have the control to move the 3D plan  around.    It is pushing down the scroller buttom on mouse, think it would be called the middle button on the mouse, the mouse is a microsoft wireless 4000.,     But my guesses     one you need a fairly nice graphics card.  Mine's a nvdia quadro 4000,      You need your renderer checked as Hardware not software (find this in the "Model Options")         Under ("face options) uncheck reflections   maybe.      My last computer with a FX 1700 graphics card would do it , altho I now have a better one T3600 Dell quadro 4000.         It's nice to be able to do that for many reasons.

 

Bill Wimberley
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Navigating in 3D

Here is a short video demonstrating how to navigate around in 3D using the mouse.

Moving in 3D

Bill M
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Thank you farwood and Bill

Thank you farwood and Bill for the replies.  I will have to watch the video a time or two Bill to get the different keys down.