Can someone help me write formulas? or share somethings they have??

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Matthewglidden
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Can someone help me write formulas? or share somethings they have??
SoftPlan Version:
2014 Plus

Good Evening,

 

  I just got settled in with softplan 2014 and decided I wanted to expand what I can do...I have a local builder I'm working with that is looking to get lumber material take-offs.  They currently use components to frame up their homes and they are wanting to cost out the difference to stick frame the house... So would the out of the box formulas work fine for me to do this or does anyone out there have some formulas that will work better for me.  That being said where do I go to edit the formulas that are pre-written or where would I go to insert formulas you may provide for me??

 

Thanks so much in advance for anyones help.. I look forward to growing into this family 

Matt

Bill Wimberley
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SoftList

Hey Matthew. SoftList is not something you will likely be able to learn overnight. It is a very powerful program and quite complex.

I would recommend first watching these videos httsp://softplantuts.com/Tutorial-Category/SoftList

Since you indicated that you are a SoftPlan + user you also have access to a number of other videos directly from within SoftPlan.

Finally, browse through the SoftList user manual. It is quite thorough and helpful when learning how SoftList works. Remember that SoftList is not magic. It is a database query tool. And your drawings are the database. SoftList can not count something that you did not draw on the plan. So if you do not draw the joists, rafters, floor joists, etc. then SoftList can not count them.

Get a good understanding of how it works and then if the existing formulas do not work exactly how you want them to then I or someone else would be happy to help you modify them to meet your needs.

Here is the list of videos available through your SoftPlan + start page.

 

Bill is the owner and maintainer of SoftPlanTuts.com

Matthewglidden
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Thanks to much for getting

Thanks to much for getting back with me I just bought this Thursday and I'm waiting for my manual to come in the mail but in the meantime I didnt want to waste time and I wanted to jump right in and get my feet wet.  I started watching the videos as well and will watch more of them and get back with you guys.  Again thanks for always writing back so fast and helping people out!!

 

MG

Bill Wimberley
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SoftList

When learning SoftList I would recommend creating a small test house that you can easily verify that the lists produced are in line with what you are wanting. For example just a simple 12' x 16' rectangular house. Run the report and see if the reports are listing everything in the plan. If something is missing then make sure that it is actually on the plan.

Also verify that items are listed the way you want them. Some people want a list of each individual material and length. Some just want a total length. For instance you might want the list to show the total length of wall plates rather than a list that shows x amount of 10', x amount of 12', and so on.

Some people want a list of all 2x4 material or all 2x6 material, with no breakdown of how the material is to be used. For instance they don't care if the 2x4's are wall plates or bracing. They just want a total. They don't care if the 2x6 material is a joist or a rafter. On the other hand, some people want to know what each material and length would be used for.

Once you are satisfied with the reports on your small test house start making larger more complex houses and verify the list.

Also verify that your wall definitions are correct for the builders you will be creating reports for. The wall definitions that come with SoftPlan are pretty generic and wall configurations vary from region to region. Make sure that SoftPlan is set up to use the correct corners and wall intersections too. These can affect the accuracy of your material lists. Corner options are 'L' Stud, Double Stud, Solid Stud, Single Stud, and 4 Studs. Intersect options are Flat, 'L' Stud, Double Stud, Box Stud, Ladder, and 4 Studs.

Another thing to be very careful of is joists. Make sure all your joists are running the correct direction, are of the correct length, and are of the correct size. I've seen people just run a joist polygon around the entire house and call it good. Each room has to be looked at and joists added correctly. Many rooms can be combined if they are the same span but others have to be done individually. If you just run your joists across the entire house you will end up with extremely long joists that can not be correct.

The bottom line is that the more accurately you draw your plans the more accurate your materials lists will be. SoftList is merely a very sophisticated automated counting tool. Garbage in, garbage out.